Some of these people aren't real, you do know that don't you?

Wow there's some hate in this thread.

So why is it that carebears are so horribly maligned and when the notion of them making roams to nullsec come up (which is at the baseline what this is) here comes more hate?


But seriously, if you want to have some carebearish nullsec fun, don't send ships down into the gank pipelines just to die in a campfire and make the renters on the borders feel like the have a purpose. Form wolfpacks of bombers or bomber/blackops groups and use wormholes to go into DEEP null. Then bomb stuff.

Now if you think such a thing is futile, remember that for every ISK not being earned by those tasked to hunt your ass, there's one more being spent on the same endeavor. There's also the uncountable factor of everybody docked up in their POS and all those bots they would be afraid to launch too.

Fact is no wolfpack is going to take down a nullsec corp by any military means, but the damage in ISK and operations would be enough to put economic pressure on them and make life harder. The only reason why the nullbears are lording it up out there practically untouched in their blue donut is because nobody will be creative and do anything about it. CPP has already provided the tools so complaining about it in the forums is pointless .

And if there is hate to go around, I would bet that Mr. Nullsec who loves to complain "carebear this and carebear that" is going to cry like an interior decorator in a house fire when he can't do the one thing he gave up all but his game to do: run anoms and rat. And all because people wanted to stir up some trouble because... well because they can. Hulks used to get ganked because those doing it simply could.

you goons are a bit sleepy, our warchest just got filled with 30 ships from investors, and it did just take my carebear catalyst to hunt one of you down infront of your VFK bounce house

ok cool, i put something together!

The Goons are ebil and TEST are just put upon do gooders


http://evenews24.com/2013/06/27/nyx-killed-in-fountain/

They scammed that guy, invited him to a corp, jumped him out and then nuked him. Something about not wanting carebears.


/shrug.

I can't find the mission on eve-survival, what damage do the rats do?

Turtles are lame... Wearing my Terror Bears T-shirt today to honor our great liberator Harry Forever, while listening to Jita-style talk in VFK-IV.

Terror Bears:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__8tv2laMEBk/TUSgcoOGWZI/AAAAAAAAFL0/eAtf40jwzLQ/s400/TMNTStrangeness03.jpg

Carebears, join the cause!

For all you can lose is some ISK...

No need for trolling "awfully plain looking basement lady".

The rest of nullsec is next.


Important reading assignment.

Hello fellow noobears, how me and my fellow monkeys can join this incredible mass of caos and care ?

This is pretty popcorn worthy. Why don't you guys formalize an alliance and call it like "Nullsec Liberation Front" or something. I'd imagine that the massive potential industrial supply chain could create a suicide blob for the ages, which, if you think about it, would be hilariously ironic when pointed at goonfleet. Also, why limit yourselves to picking on the goons specifically? There's a whole amazing ecosystem to explode out there. This is more fun news than "Yep, still fighting over moons" at any rate.

You must forgive Joepopo... He never got past propaganda 101 before they gave him such great responsibilities as mass-fitting ships and from time to time move a transport.
He presumably also wrote a program, that will point any Goon to the nearest toilet or something...

I am fine with it if you do it for the symbol. I was concerned that you really thought VFK was an active system at the moment.

This is what I hate indeed, that it all seems to make no sense at all.

Every single thread I see about someone in high-sec hating on the Goons just makes me laugh a bit on the inside; I wonder how many of these people who, supposedly, hate the Goons actually do so for a personal reason (Got scammed &c), or just because they were told from their pubbie friends about how Goons were all twirling mustache boogeymen.

We have never had any contact (positive or negative) with any Goon except for here in the forums.

We simply don't like bullies.

I don't know why you say "you guys" to me when referring to GSF because I'm neither in GSF nor do I pretend to be in it (Except in those few cases where I'm bored as hell and ask in local if anyone wants to join for a nominal fee. Even then, you can check my alliance within a second.)

But all warfare is economic, you see....

When you are in a Rifter with say, 6 million ISK invested, and someone who went to nullsec to run anoms in their Tengu has to chase you down, they might get you. But it takes time. Now, in the time it takes to catch Mr Rifter and pod him back to highsec, how much ISK would you have made if you could have peacefully carebeared it up running anoms out there in nullsec?

That Rifter cost you way more than it did the person who was flying it. And that person you podded will be back.

Oh the irony

Ustrello post was good. Goonswarm is a very close community with strict acceptation rules.

Your post was bad and consisted of a blind bashing of the guy, probably on based on the fact that he is in Amok. .

This is bad, bad, bad. You should read the post, not only the alliance before writing something.

All well and good, but I judge a man by the company he keeps. Your company... is not the kind of people I'd like to hang with. Harry in particular, has not accquitted himself well, at all. If I kept company with him... let's just say I would have a lot of the friends I do have.

But I still believe my point stands. Even if we get past the argument of "how is what you're going to improve anything, what needs improving, and why?", the fact remains that you couldn't get 3000 "solo players" to show up in the same system at once, let alone engage in coordinated warfare against people who have literally had years of practice destroying people far more powerful than the disparate forces of highsec.

And if you ever succeeded in getting a force put together? Nullsec alliances will band against a common foe (they're literally doing that right now), and you will still die in a fire.

LOL.

You at least, seem to have some idea of the futility of your actions. I wonder how it is then that several others seem to think that this is some kind of second-coming scrub revolution, and that "irregular warfare" means all of nullsec should be afraid?

Ah, and your last sentence. You are improving the combat readiness of the Goons, your ostensible enemy. The people whom so many in this thread are vehemently, slaveringly hating on. I rather doubt that your compatriots are in it for the gudfite as much as you are.

I doubt the mind at all.

Its kind of awwwww that cute. Generally you guys are no more than an annoyance when people have other things that they need to do.

Dude you understand loosing 25 ships usually happens in about 5 minutes under normal circumstances.

If the "combat readyness" of the goons have increased because of these incursions into VFK, then I say, good.


That it had to be sharpened up at all is indication of nullsec being what they say is so bad about highsec.


Since there are people from nullsec who have engaged in "emergent play" on the ground that highsec has it "too easy", it's only fair to head out to nullsec and poke them with a stick and remind them of their own doctrines.


Nevertheless, we should note that there are people on both sides having a good time. Who would say there was anything wrong with that?


And in the end, much complaints about people being "risk averse" or to some effect afraid of PVP, my agenda in this project is to find out ways to help INDIVIDUALS deal with that.

And it's the so-called casual player who is most PVP averse but are these reasons of being too much of a chicken (I have chickens and those little buggers can be fearless BTW) or fearing loss? A casual player may be doing their gaming at the end of the day, when trying to wind down, so being new to PVP while trying to wind down at the end of a long day is usually not good idea. So events like the one Harry is putting together, and drawing out some more daring bears for this, will hopefully get people to be more calm during PVP and therefore not so averse to it.


Still, I cannot understand the hate. I was under the impression that the nullsec community would welcome these ideas. Goons most of all even, for they tend to relish in this sort of activity - at least when they are not the target of it.



Ah well, there will be more. This is just the beginning. We are already seeing things change out there, all because of some noobs in destroyers and frigates. You can't find a better game than this.

You say that as if some of us could have girlfriends in the first place.

I recommend everybody using 2 stab early on, its perfect to try and engage some solo frigs and in case you are not able to make it, warp out and try the next one... perfect for training, and it makes going to VFK worth it because you survive longer...

perfect to gain experience... everybody in null will tell you its stupid to put those on, because they can not grab you then if you just engage solo targets, thats what they hate the most, their advantge is gone and you can use them just as sparring partners :D

for a newb this is perfect because you can go there and engage multible fights without dying, good for motivation and sometimes you even get a kill...

there are even NPC stations around where you can repair armor or structure of your ship in case you got damaged... with this tactic i can fight, get kills and do not loose ships very often...

I do not even have to leave null and go back through the problematic first gatecamps... just safe logoff in VFK, thats how everybody should do it

Because looking it up on Dotlan is hard.

Dont stop believin

Yes, you have to anchor SBUs on at least half of the gates, online them, babysit them for 3 hours while they online, find which planet the ihub is online at, and then shoot the ihub with a bunch of ships until it's in reinforced and you can no longer lock it.

Of course this isn't something you can do alone unless you can multibox a dozen supers or several dozen bombers/battlecruisers, and you certainly don't want to do this in a station system because that means you'll have to reinforce the station as well. 20-30 dudes in bombers or tier 3 battlecruisers who have some time to spare can reinforce an ihub easily.

Then note the timer on the ihub. When it comes out, you probably have no intention of taking the system (because you'll have to shoot through the ihub a second time, and then a third time, then kill the TCU, then babysit your own onlining TCUs, then titan bridge a freighter into the system to drop and online an ihub) but you can easily camp the route to the system to kill stragglers from the fleet going there to cover carriers repping the ihub.

To add context to this, I was in an omen I had just thrown together from spares. I offered a straight 1 on 1. He refused to fight anything other than a frigate. So If he was only willing to fight down a grade, so was I. Pointing out tengus on your D-scan is great and all but can you find them and kill them? and are they goons or neuts? and are the in a POS? These are all questions that determine how many active targets you have.

I'm SMA, and I'm an honourable guy.
I was even willing to join his fleet (so he could see I was alone) and warp to him (so noone could warp to us without probes)

hehe I just got booted from his channel when I told him he is a joke.

Marmite did not even hurt the goons and they did hundreds of billions of damage to them with wars. Get a clue fruitcake.

Because harry the clown makes it out to be more.Come on look at the damn topic title.



It's one thing fighting a giant , it's another to fight that giant with a bucket of feathers and pretend that with 100 buckets of feathers that giant would be harmed in any way.That's the difference between a mastermind and the village idiot.


You want to have fun and experience then take those exact same ships with you to syndicate and i guarantee you'll have more fun and actually shoot something wich can fire back.And on top you could actually have a base there with more ships/mods/ammo etc.

Just leaving it here.. I feel the last post one a page is always overlooked.

Personal Attacks? I did no such thing.